334 hp TBI

chrisviper · #1 April 9th, 2006, 12:08 PM

After some thrashing yesterday , we got some results [smilie=biggrin.gif]

BBN · #2 April 9th, 2006, 12:22 PM

NOW THATS WHAT I AM TALKIN ABOUT !!!!

seeing numbers like that make me think there are some multiport guys out there starting to sweat a little. [smilie=biggrin.gif]

and can we get a mod list on that bad boy.

GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!!!

louswheel01 · #3 April 9th, 2006, 01:00 PM

Man, you giving all of us TBI guys hope! Can we get a MOD list?

soulja620 · #4 April 9th, 2006, 02:29 PM

hells yeah, this is my motivation!
whatcha got in there?

louswheel01 · #5 April 9th, 2006, 06:43 PM

I have a feeling its top secret KDM/ChrisViper research [smilie=whistling.g:

chrisviper · #6 April 9th, 2006, 10:15 PM

Here are some of the mods...
- 18g/td05h , ported exhaust inlet
- stock (freshened) motor with arp head studs , stock head , stock cam
- 2 1/4 inch intercooler piping kit (kdm)
- 3.0 inch KDM exhaust with cat
- crane HI6 ignition
- greddy e-manage with one additional injector
- 1to1 fuel pressure regulator
- fuel pump (need to install)
- stock MAS (tried gen1 eclipse mas , did not like it)
- 25 psi On 91 octane PUMP GAS
I'll let Chris explain the rest...

Thanks to Kelly yesterday , we got that thing back together and on the dyno in about four hours . The car has the mods listed above with the addition of :

- mild port job on cylinder head
- o-ringed the head with fel-pro gasket
- modified valve guides and used special valve keeper / spring set up to run high lift camshaft
- test cam , not sure if I like it , but the car does rev out a lot further than before
- changed the fuel pump , totally out of fuel with the stock pump
- got rid of the mass air flow meter , converted it to speed density

I think there's more left in this thing . We were running 91 octane fuel with no knock . The motor liked ignition timing , but I did not want to advance it too much . The dyno run was at around twelve degrees initial .

When I had the head off , I put a port on the exhaust manifold to test turbine back pressure . Next time I have time to play with it , I would like to do some tests to see how much pressure drop there is in the stock intercooler and throttle body , and to check the turbine pressure .

It's a rough tune at this point , but overall , this car drives a lot better than it did with the mas air flow meter . The car just spin's the tires in first and second gear

- stock bottom end with balance shafts , stock compression

- dyno'd with custom cam . the cam was made from a new casting and there is about .510 lift and 270 running duration

- stock ecu , with the e-manage used to drive the additional injector , convert it over to speed density (no mas sensor) , and overall make the stock ecu happy

Joshua Harris · #7 May 4th, 2006, 07:54 PM

This gives a bunch of us hope. Been debating on MPI (magna or hurricane) or trying to cope with the factory trottle body system. But with the results you have, it makes more sense than spend an extra 2 grand or more just to upgrade to a t3/t4 and mpi. New manifold for the turbo new turbo, and hurricane mpi ahhh 3 grand plus motor....If I only had someone in Atlanta, GA. area with as much knowledge as you guys and had a half way decent shop that don't bend you over the barrel so to speak. A few good shops in the area but many are nissan or honda oriented. Keep up the good work.. [smilie=burnout.gif]

Kelly · #8 August 18th, 2006, 01:17 PM

Car is currently being look at for sale locally, If someone wants to purchase this car please email me.
Thanks Kelly

dcrasta · #9 August 19th, 2006, 01:50 PM

chit that means all the MPI boys making less that 400 WHP are coming up short?

SVT Proto · #10 August 20th, 2006, 03:23 AM

what is - "greddy e-manage with one additional injector"
what do you mean by "with an extra injector"? I have never heard of this mod with the tbi.

svo · #11 August 20th, 2006, 10:26 PM

Sounds like you're not in the loop - You need to quit dicking around with that SQC site - this is where the real power is made.

SVT Proto · #12 August 22nd, 2006, 03:13 AM

Lol it seems so. So where can i find the info to this power?

BBN · #13 August 22nd, 2006, 11:51 AM

this pic is from (tep not to be associated with kdm in anyway) but only pic i could find of and extra injector setup.

with a setup like they are running you are adding extra injectors to the ovcp, and use a seperate management system to run the extra injectors

Kelly · #14 August 22nd, 2006, 12:52 PM

Unfortunately that AIC system is one of the worst add on that anyone could do to your starion. It is a very crude system that cannot be tuned correctly.
Here's one example and proof that it is a fire waiting to happen.

Look familiar

Kelly · #15 August 22nd, 2006, 12:56 PM

BBN · #16 August 23rd, 2006, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellydahman

Unfortunately that AIC system is one of the worst add on that anyone could do to your starion. It is a very crude system that cannot be tuned correctly.
Here's one example and proof that it is a fire waiting to happen.

Look familiar

thats why i made sure i stated what i did next to the pic. the pic was just a general reference to give him an idea of a setup like that would work. i wouldnt promote TEP products if it was a paying job!

now maybe if we sent "secret squirel" out we could get some co-op photos of the "actually" 300 hp beast.

and there is something about those fire photos that look familar, only my fire was on the other side and not that extreme.[/QUOTE]

chromepuff · #17 September 13th, 2006, 05:44 AM

Hi! yeah, that's good for an 18g and tbi, but you said it was with greddy e-manage, so no mas, a good sized bumpstick and a 3rd injector. What did you have for the stock injectors? two secondaries or what?

What intercooler did you use also?

Kelly · #18 September 13th, 2006, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chromepuff

Hi! yeah, that's good for an 18g and tbi, but you said it was with greddy e-manage, so no mas, a good sized bumpstick and a 3rd injector. What did you have for the stock injectors? two secondaries or what?

What intercooler did you use also?

We had totally stock injectors running with the Ultimate.
The 3rd injector was a stock green secondary.
Two secondary injectors caused the car to run like crap.
We got alot more HP now and are ready to show it at the Next KDM Performance meet coming soon.
We hold the record for the highest HP TBI and will for some time with Chris Viper at hand.

chromepuff · #19 September 13th, 2006, 04:44 PM

and he's got an 18g still? Can you find a Dyno Dynamics dyno so I can get some numbers to compare to? :)

barbercb · #20 September 13th, 2006, 06:44 PM

The highest TBI with an extra injector :-)

Get some 1/4 times stop making arrows I wanna see what it can do with the indians.

Kelly · #21 September 14th, 2006, 07:11 AM

Yeap 18G turbo TD05H and alot of port work to the turbo. Not saying it's going to last long either

Kelly · #22 September 14th, 2006, 07:11 AM

BTW his 334rwhp car is for sale $6000

phinko · #23 September 14th, 2006, 11:15 PM

he aint leavin he show all together is he?

Kelly · #24 September 15th, 2006, 08:11 AM

phinko · #25 September 15th, 2006, 10:58 AM

Well thats too bad, any good reason Y?

Can we get some quality pics of it. Especially the engine bay. :)